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[编辑] 维基百科对言话个要求

勒拉元维基浪帮助条目How to start a new Wikipedia(哪亨来开始一只新个维基百科)下头,提着维基百科齐巧开始辰光要做个一眼基本个事体。当中搭言话搭界个摘录勒拉下头(黑体部分是外加要注意搭仔目前看来比较棘手个):

[编辑] Set up basic guidelines

There are a few rules that all Wikimedia projects must follow:

  • You cannot violate the terms of a copyright. Please make a page to warn users not to copy things from other places without asking the author.
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  • Authors must write from a (NPOV). Please make a page to explain this.
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Other than these all-projects rules, each Wikipedia has created its own rules.

Some rules you might want to have right away include:

  • Orthographic practices - if there is more than one way to spell or write your language, you will need rules about it.
  • 正词法实践 - 假使尔笃个言话有弗罢一种拼写或者书写个办法,尔笃要拿相关规矩定出来。
  • Stylistic conventions - if your language does not have a standardised universal form (way everybody speaks it to understand each other), you will need to have one or have a rule to tell people which forms or dialects of your language to use. Also, you will need more complex stylistic conventions(for an example, see here).
  • 文体惯例或协定 - 要是讲尔笃个言话呒拨一个标准化个普遍个形式(共同语),个末尔笃就要专门有个人或者有只规矩,告诉别人家,到底用哪里一种形式个方言。并且,尔笃也需要更加复杂个“文体惯例或协定”。

[编辑] Add a style guide and resources for writers

You want to have a high-quality encyclopaedia. Please write a few suggestions for writers. Are there websites in your language about how to write? Maybe you want to add a dictionary or a grammar guide here. Put in everything that could be useful for writers.

[编辑] Write a few good content articles as an example for others

You might want to write a few articles for your Wikipedia to get it started, and to give an example to other possible writers. You can translate an article from a different Wikipedia, or you can write an original article.


该个问题牵涉交关广,譬如整只维基个文章风格问题,操作界面个本地化,应该依据哪亨个原则,请大家一道讨论出几只可行方案出来。压末可以通过表决来定到底采用何里一只方案。

[编辑] 吴语维基百科使用言话讨论

  • 吴语的可行性
我认为吴语是个大范畴,各个吴语之间的差距还是存在的,比如我虽以吴语为母语,但在理解吴语百科的首页时,还是遇到了一些需要思考或者不理解的词。我看是不是直接改为上海吴语比较合适和实用呢?或者建立一套标准的吴语白话文?就好像天津话和北京话使用统一的书面语一样。个人意见,仅仅参考。
以明代《山歌》以来个吴语书面语作品为基础,兼容并包,搿就是吴语维基目前使用个言话。勒此地个实践本身就是建立吴语白话文 个尝试。 --吴人 13:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
我觉着首先是虚词搭仔orthographia。Orthographia个问题末,大个原则已经肯定哉,所以末就是具体个争论比较要紧。 --59.78.18.5 08:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
还有就是如果拿比如讲钱老师请过来,弗就一切ok拉末。大家觉着该个提议呐亨--59.78.18.5 08:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
上头个是我。--Minus273 08:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


大力支持。但是我觉着单单用一种上海言话作为吴语的代表是弗妥当个。因为由于上海勒上世纪中,有大量宁波人搭仔苏北人涌入,所以上海话中有很多宁波言话,苏北言话的影子。宁波言话可以讲也勒吴语范畴里相,但是苏北言话就不是吴语了,其更加倾向于普通话。而苏州,是古代吴国个都城,就像中国现在拿北京言话作为普通话,所以吴语用苏州话作基准是恰当而且应当的。当然,无可否认的,上海可以说是当但吴语的中心,所以把把很多上海话放入也是应当的,但是也应该进行甄别。因为上海言话毕竟是一种兼容并蓄的语言。
弗管那亨讲,我还是大力支持该面点个。因为我弗想让吴语变成死语言。最好是好像粤语一样,可以有对应个字。经济浪相个支持是弗来塞哉,不过我会大力点精神支持个。--222.93.243.116
弗存在“单单用一种上海言话作为吴语的代表”个问题,苏州言话长期以来一脚是吴语个代表,只弗过最近有辰光搭上海言话双代表而已。
另外,行动支持顶有效,学习使用自家母语,而弗是扮演帮观者角色。 -- 吴人 13:32, 15 十月 2006 (UTC)
历史上是代表,来勒今朝讲,用帐是灭个。中原个河洛话也长期是汉语个代表,时间也是较关长。不过语言勿是死个。啥人也勿可能代表整个吴语,荡个维基,既然名气叫搭“吴语维基”,格么应当是通用个“吴语标准语”。搭汉语个普通话做样,阿拉个标准语,也应该以某种方言(苏州或者上海)为基础,语言规范重新制定一套。-- dzochithin

[编辑] 维基百科要求个参考指南

准备有仔空着手整理该个方面个内容,拿手脚跟头个吴语文献(主要是苏州言话个)里向个常用字写法整理出来,乃末再公投。 -- 吴人 00:13, 29 十月 2006 (UTC)

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