User talk:Luna Santin

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[edit] Requests for Checkuser Clerkship

I'm pleased to announce that you are being invited to take a position as a Checkuser clerk; please drop me a note on my talk page to confirm your acceptance. It would also be helpful to list yourself as an active clerk, read over the documentation, and add the relevant pages to your watchlist. If you have questions about clerkship, you can ask User:Daniel.Bryant, our Head Clerk. Essjay (Talk) 04:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I listed the page for deletion because I transfered the list {minus the URLs) to another subpage. I don't think anyone else saves URLs like I was, and I was starting to think it wasn't cool, so I transfered them to the favorites in my browser - which is better anyway.

Thanks for noticing and caring:).NinaEliza 12:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darktrax577 (talk • contribs)

Darktrax577 (talk • contribs) kinda just vandalized your page. Probablly justification for a block. Thanks for the Thank you--St.daniel 21:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] K42 threatening to sockpuppet, also more personal attacks

Note this — coelacan talk — 00:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

And [1] — coelacan talk — 00:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears that K42 is the only one to use that IP. See where K42 reinstates the IP's vandalism, for instance. And I don't see any other edits by that IP that vary from K42's style or choice of articles. — coelacan talk — 00:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Autoblock Removed

I know I've already thanked you, but here is my "official thank you": Thank you for removing the Autoblock. Now I can go back to editing. I hope the vandal doesn't come back. Acalamari 00:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Not proxy

08:45, 10 December 2006 Luna Santin blocked "82.159.137.19 (contribs)" with an expiry time of 6 months {{openproxy}}

Sorry, but I am not a proxy--Mac 07:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Attacks

TXH is personally attacking me and keeps removing my contributions to help the group I administered.

Please remove his ability to do damage to other people to help keep Wikipedia a better place to be. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.127.167.204 (talk) 12 December 2006

Look. You seem to be a nice guy.

I do not want to be judged around by some newbies like TXH thinking he's some kinda superior, to destroy other's contributions. I am sorry if I offended anyone with my "loser" comment, but I won't tolerate a minor to degrade my work and rudely send me away from Wikipedia.

I really hope you won't be giving this guy Admin tools. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.127.167.204 (talk) 12 December 2006

This user has been attacking me since he keeps using Wikipedia to advertise and keeps filling in his contact info so you can retrieve your product from him.

Please block him, his crass nature and lack of Wiki-etiquette is appalling.

TFX 09:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Please proceed taking further steps to keep TXH away from me and other contributors; to protect sincere users from insults and Wikipedia of being vandalized. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.127.167.204 (talk) 12 December 2006

This user is building a straw man. He is the only one guilty here of vandalization and ad hominem.

Luna, it's obvious that he's using the article to advertise. Can you please block him? TFX 09:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppet?

It seems that my User Page was vandalized again; this time by what is definitely a sockpuppet. User: Opronc-oA is obviously a sockpuppet of User: Opronc. Does User: Opronc-oA or User: Opronc have E-mail activated? I'd like to contact either of to ask about their vandalizing. Maybe I can reason with this User, if that's possible. I'm not angry with this User, I just want to talk. It seems that User: Opronc-oA has been blocked indefinitely Acalamari 20:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I Will E-mail

Thanks for confirming this; I will E-mail them then. This User obviously has a grudge against me, so I'm going to E-mail them. Also, since they're vandalizing got me blocked (as you already know), they must have the same IP address as me (which is worrying). It's because of this that I will try to reason with this User. If I get a reply, may I post(by copy and paste) it on your Talk Page? Acalamari 20:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The E-mail

Here is the E-mail. This is what I sent to User: Opronc-oA.

Dear Opronc/Opronc-oA,

I am Acalamari. Might I ask why you vandalized my User Page, and the User Pages of others? It seems that you had a problem with my "racism." I assure you, my comment on the Michael Richards Talk Page were POINTING OUT different types of slang, not calling anyone by any name. I was not being racist; and, if you read the Talk Page properly, I was fair.

Your vandalizing has led to your blocking. Since you and I seem to have the same IP, your block led to my autoblock. I have been lifted from the autoblock, but you are still blocked.

I don't wish to cause any trouble; I am only asking why you did what you did.

Acalamari

This is the response:

Hey Acalamari, I’m so sorry I vandalized the user pages of users Tra and MadJack (or Jack O’Lantern). I’m also sorry for vandalizing your user page. I vandalized your user page because I was angry at you. That’s all; Im sorry.

Now I want my profiles to be deleted from Wikipedia. I asked users Ryulong and Netsnipe to delete Opronc and Opronc-oA, but they haven’t responded to my emails. I want to be deleted, as my profiles are useless. I shouldn’t have done any vandalism; I was wrong to vandalize. I've asked to be deleted, but they won't delete me! I've been checking my email often to get a response; that's when I found your email! Get someone to delete me!

I am sorry. Opronc/Opronc-oA.

That was all. Acalamari 21:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Did you delete the User Pages or the actual Users? From what I read, Opronc/Opronc-oA wanted to be completely deleted. Acalamari 21:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:RunedChozo

Hey, there. Currently, there's some ongoing discussion about the recent events surrounding this user, on WikiEN-l. I'm checking things over, and I haven't been able, just yet, to find evidence to support the allegation of block evasion -- any chance you could help me out in that regard? Thanks in advance! Luna Santin 22:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Look at the recent contributions for 70.114.237.14 (talk • contribs). It's quite clear it's him since he's talking in the same fashion and given this comment where he references his talk page being blocked. I suppose a checkuser can be done to confirm this. -- tariqabjotu 22:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Hrm. Looks like 70.114.237.14 and RunedChozo have very similar behaviors, the way I'm reading it. No objection if we want a checkuser on this -- if there may be other users involved, being safe couldn't hurt. Luna Santin 23:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on the checkuser request right now (it's actually an addendum to another checkuser request from earlier). -- tariqabjotu 23:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] hello Luna

i was reading the mailing list about the RunedChozo incident... i'm not sure how to reply to current discussions (i just signed up to it), so i was thinking i would request you to convey all i had to say on the matter (i had already explained this on AN/I).

if that edit summary is looked at by itself, then no it doesn't match up with my revert. if, however, you consider RunedChozo's behaviour on that page then you may understand the reasoning for that summary. every revert by RunedChozo had been a revert to this version (bar an extra sentence which i will cover in a moment), which was the insertion of subjective (and yes, unsourced) OR. now, RunedChozo had been persisting in re-inserting this sentence: it was only five reverts after his original insertion that he added an additional sentence starting with "Source:..". this is rather inconsequental: the sources do not substantiate the claim, so it remains OR; and he would not be in a position to verify it unless he is fluent in Arabic, which i do not believe he is. i didn't see his insertion of these sources: someone else had reverted it before i'd had a chance to look at it. when RunedChozo had come back from his three day block and resumed reverting to self again (11 Dec), i merely assumed that he was reinserting the same OR again (which he was), not knowing that he had added a pseudo-'source' to it. had i known that he was also misrepresenting sources i would not have described his OR insertion as 'unsourced'. i may have been wrong, yes, but i certainly was not lying. i hope that clarifies the issue. by the way, i do not know future perfect (i have addressed him on two separate occasions only)- i contacted him when i had found RunedChozo puppeteering (User:Wheelygood), because he had been involved in the 3RR discussion here.

if you could put that up on the list Luna, i would be very grateful.. thank you. ITAQALLAH 23:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

yes, please. just copy paste all of that. thank you :)

[edit] I am too existant!

There seems to have been some error here. Please reverse. I may have screwed up the move last night, but I'm really me. The page should be attached to user:Fabartus\Wet noodle award, which also seems to have been tossed into the bit bucket by you. Did I use the wrong slash in userfying it??? Others have been invited in, so that's no surprise.

See the subtopic title of the same name. I pulled this off Tfd last night so as to not waste people's time. But there will be others looking in, as the issue is a good one to figure out how to attack. Thanks // FrankB 02:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theplanetsaturn & Tenebree

I'll do as you suggest. I admit I'm surprised that one can say "lets take a look at your lies," "Perhaps it is the stink of your hypocrisy," and "you are a poor judge of character should rethink your career, Mr. Journalist." You truly don't those personal attacks? --Tenebrae 03:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Additionally, the Theplanetsaturn wrote this at Talk:Jhonen Vasquez: "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ECTO??!!!! Who gives a shit, ducky?"... -- Theplanetsaturn 02:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC). I don't think it's right that he's allowed to do this to not just to me but to others. --Tenebrae 03:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Ban

I believe I was unfairly banned. A couple of Indian users have hijacked a thread and they are putting in information based on biased Indian sites. I pointed this out and told them no credible source confirms what they are putting in the articles. They ganged up on me, and contacted another Indian mod who banned me for "personal attacks", when in fact these Indian users had come up with more personal attacks aimed at me. I think this is really unfair, and apart from this ridiculous ban, the articles are being edited by Indian users to fit their personal views. A non India user has NO CHANCE to reason, argue, or even as much as question their actions.

Please read the discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:P%C4%81%E1%B9%87ini

I explained my position extremely well, but it proved to be impossibly hard to make them read it. Their comeback for ignoring everything I say is that, "they are not required to read blogs"

Most of their evidence is based on "blogs" and "blogs" in other words are peoples opinions. The blog being referred to in the discussion was mine.

Please let me know how I can sort this out. They are hijacking history articles which in no way are related to them. And I was effectively banned for just arguing with them, by another Indian mod I might point out.

User:Unre4L

Am I to assume academic university sources are now "blogs"?Bakaman 23:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Your sites are Indian websites, articles are written by Indian so called historians, most of them made by random individuals, and if I wanted to ask you a question, I would have posted it on your talk page. You got me banned for something you did way more than me.

Excuse me if I dont exactly feel like "discussing" with you guys anymore.

Unre4L 00:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply - did you read the source? its not even an Indian person thats the head of the linguistics dept, its a Bulgarian. "So called historians" (lol), if you define "so called" as actual historians then yes, all I'm doing is quoting "random individuals".Bakaman 16:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Clarification: I blocked User:Unre4L for 3RR on Pāṇini, not for personal attacks. -- Samir धर्म 06:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Clarification: You blocked me for re-editing text which your fellow mates have changed once again. Take a look at the article. Its supposed to be "Pathan" instead of ancient indian. I have already told you guys ancient indian cant be used to describe anyones origin.

Unre4L 14:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Please refer to WP:3RR as to the reason why you were blocked. I have no idea about your content dispute -- Samir धर्म 22:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC, WP:PAIN, and now the discussion page for Emergence

This needs an admin to jump in. You asked for more links in WP:PAIN to support Fourdee's accusations. He has used this as an excuse to advocate and dispute what reviewers/admins have commented on that page (in violation of the instructions at the top of the page which explicitly state not to do this). In addition, he has created an RfC on the same issue and has turned the discussion page for Emergence into yet a third platform. That's three seperate pages all trying to make the same case - two of them (the WP:PAIN content and the content on the discussion page of Emergence) in direct violation of policy. I am bringing this to your attention because he is using your statement, " If you can establish this as part of a greater trend, in an RfC, or link to some more severe comments, I may be more inclined to take some action" as an excuse to do so. I am requesting that, rather than distract the discussion page of Emergence from its intended use (discussing how to write a better article on Emergence) and rather than distracting the WP:PAIN page from its intended use (as clearly stated in the instructions at the top of that page), that all of this drama be consolidated into one location (which, as I see it, is probably an RfC).-Psychohistorian 16:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] THANK YOU

thank you tank you thank you thank you thank you thank you... ok, enough with that... ok, just one more THANK YOU FOR UNBLOCKING ME!!!!! your the greatest. i want to do something nice for you. if you ever have a request just tell me and it will be done before you can type "thank you" o and thank you.J.L.Main 20:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Avenger's Lament

You said: "Checkuser results are in; see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Chadbryant. Seemed like you'd want to know."

Yeap, I saw that. And this guy had the nerve to demand an apology, in advance, when the results came in. I really need to be just a bit less gullible. --Yamla 22:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
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[edit] Question

Hello, how does one add their signature to comments? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TomGreen (talk • contribs) 09:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

Thanks Tom 09:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi! Thanks for reverting all those edits in L.A.M.B back! To tell you the truth I thought the article had always been vandalism (so I marked it with db tags), but apparently it had a much earlier revision that wasn't vandalism which I didn't notice. Cheers! Yuser31415 20:12, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plessy v. Ferguson

vandal is so boring, isn't he? West Brom 4ever 21:14, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Question

Hi, I was wondering if it's possible for non-admins to promote lists at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates, because a list i've been trying to promote has been there for 15 days and the admin who is most active there hasn't been very active recently. Thanks, -- Scorpion 22:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darktrax577

Just a question but when you blocked him did you really block the whole IP or is he just trying to get back to Trolling? Thanks jsut wondering.--St.daniel 22:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Hanukkah

Happy Hanukkah Luna Santin I know you're not Jewish but I am so I feal like spreading the Hanukkah feeling. Thanks for getting me unblocked.Sam ov the blue sand 23:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Price is Right redirects

Why did you delete two Price is Right redirects? The admin closing the RfD concerning those two closed it as a "keep". Philwelch 23:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)