Category talk:Hardcore punk groups
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There is an important difference between hardcore and hardcore punk. Most of these bands, if not all are hardcore, though there is of course a large over lap (especially since the terms aren't exactly defined perfectly). For example, the Dead Kennedys would probably be defined as both Hardcore and Hardcore Punk, while Gorrilla Biscuits or Charles Bronson would not be described as Hardcore Punk by anyone within the Hardcore community.
It's a hard distinction to nail exactly, but hardcore was louder, faster, younger and without a lot of the perceived "arty pretensions" of punk, while still maintaining it's free spirit.
Why both have a list of "hardcore punk groups" and "hardcore punk bands"? What's the difference?
I agree with the above. However, I don't even think this should exist. It should be an article/forum attempting to explain whatever this category could possibly be, not a list of stupid emohairscream bands. Go ahead and direct people to this discussion, I have a feeling this is going to keep going. For example, comment #2 I think you're on the right path. Think punk. Subway Sect, Ramones, New York Dolls, the Weirdos, the Stranglers etc. Advance a few years and make it more extreme all around. The dress, the politics, the beat, the words. It's punk on pcp.
Enter shikari are hardcore punk now? I think not. More like screamo meets dance/trance.
At what point, if ever, were AFI a hardcore punk band? If there are no objections, I'll remove the link.--Mcr hxc 16:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of straight edge groups is undergoing a deletion debate
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of straight edge groups (second nomination) Paul foord 12:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
