Wikipedia:Esperanza/Advisory Committee Meeting April 2006/log

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6-4-2006 17:33	Celestianpower	Good
6-4-2006 17:33	Celestianpower	Let us begin
6-4-2006 17:33	Celestianpower	First on the agenda, elections
6-4-2006 17:33	Celestianpower	Same system as before?
6-4-2006 17:33	Celestianpower	Yes
6-4-2006 17:34	Celestianpower	Approval voting
6-4-2006 17:34	KnowledgeOfSelf	Yes I thought it worked out fine
6-4-2006 17:34	JoanneB	yeah
6-4-2006 17:34	Celestianpower	Okay, 3 spaces are up this time, since KOS is leaving us
6-4-2006 17:35	FireFox	Yes
6-4-2006 17:35	Celestianpower	Tito, FF and KOS will be re-elected or replaced
6-4-2006 17:35	KnowledgeOfSelf	Yes
6-4-2006 17:35	Celestianpower	Okay
6-4-2006 17:35	Celestianpower	When shall we start submissions?
6-4-2006 17:35	Celestianpower	*start accepting
6-4-2006 17:35	JoanneB	asap?
6-4-2006 17:36	FireFox	ASAP
6-4-2006 17:36	Celestianpower	So, tonight, after the newsletter is sent out?
6-4-2006 17:36	KnowledgeOfSelf	On what date do the elections start?
6-4-2006 17:36	Celestianpower	1 week before the 31st
6-4-2006 17:37	Celestianpower	24th
6-4-2006 17:37	JoanneB	erm
6-4-2006 17:37	JoanneB	it's April :P
6-4-2006 17:37	FireFox	30 days in september...
6-4-2006 17:37	Celestianpower	Well, 23rd then  ;)
6-4-2006 17:37	KnowledgeOfSelf	lol
6-4-2006 17:37	FireFox	:P
6-4-2006 17:37	Celestianpower	So that gives people 2 weeks 3 days to submit themselves
6-4-2006 17:38	Celestianpower	Is that not a bit long?
6-4-2006 17:38	KnowledgeOfSelf	Sounds alright
6-4-2006 17:38	FireFox	Yeah that's fine
6-4-2006 17:38	JoanneB	perhaps, but I don't think it's a problem
6-4-2006 17:39	KnowledgeOfSelf	Since there are 3 new spots, it will give more people time to decide if they want to run
6-4-2006 17:39	Celestianpower	Okay then
6-4-2006 17:39	Celestianpower	;)
6-4-2006 17:39	JoanneB	lol
6-4-2006 17:39	JoanneB	("We overruled the Admin Gen! We overruled the Admin Gen! )
6-4-2006 17:39	FireFox	Yey!
6-4-2006 17:39	KnowledgeOfSelf	lol
6-4-2006 17:39	KnowledgeOfSelf	always wanted to do that before he left  :P
6-4-2006 17:39	Celestianpower	Okay, all previous councillors and Admin Gens are allowed to run?
6-4-2006 17:39	Celestianpower	Seemed to work last time
6-4-2006 17:40	JoanneB	yes
6-4-2006 17:40	FireFox	yes
6-4-2006 17:40	KnowledgeOfSelf	Yes
6-4-2006 17:40	Celestianpower	Good
6-4-2006 17:40	Celestianpower	Anything else election-related we need to discuss?
6-4-2006 17:40	KnowledgeOfSelf	Maybe
6-4-2006 17:41	FireFox	We need to make the election pages before we send out the newsletter
6-4-2006 17:41	Celestianpower	Yes
6-4-2006 17:41	KnowledgeOfSelf	Yes
6-4-2006 17:41	KnowledgeOfSelf	Nevermind my "maybe":D I can't think of anything :D
6-4-2006 17:41	Celestianpower	KnowledgeOfSelf: Okay
6-4-2006 17:41	Celestianpower	Next issue
6-4-2006 17:41	Celestianpower	Taken from WP:ESP/ACM5
6-4-2006 17:42	Celestianpower	Code Of Conduct
6-4-2006 17:42	Celestianpower	User:Celestianpower/Sandbox has a draft that we've been working on
6-4-2006 17:43	Celestianpower	!AC What do we think - is it ready to submit to the Esperanza membership in its current form?
6-4-2006 17:43	Celestianpower	Anything else we could add?
6-4-2006 17:43	JoanneB	hm if we're going to keep it general like this, I can't think of anything right now
6-4-2006 17:43	KnowledgeOfSelf	Nor me
6-4-2006 17:44	Celestianpower	JoanneB: Do you have any other suggestions?
6-4-2006 17:44	KnowledgeOfSelf	But it is ready to be proposed on Esperanza's talk page
6-4-2006 17:44	JoanneB	if particular sections would be inserted, I'd like 'RFA behaviour' and 'IRC behaviour' - although, yes, I know those issues should be covered by what we have right now  :-)
6-4-2006 17:44	Celestianpower	Yeah
6-4-2006 17:44	JoanneB	but it's ready to go out into the world, yes
6-4-2006 17:45	JoanneB	for discussion
6-4-2006 17:45	Celestianpower	Good
6-4-2006 17:45	Celestianpower	!AC Are we in agreeement that User:Celestianpower/Sandbox is ready to move to WP:ESP/CC and be discussed by the Esperanza community?
6-4-2006 17:45	Celestianpower	Aye
6-4-2006 17:46	FireFox	Oui
6-4-2006 17:46	JoanneB	aye
6-4-2006 17:46	KnowledgeOfSelf	Aye
6-4-2006 17:46	Celestianpower	God
6-4-2006 17:46	Celestianpower	*Good
6-4-2006 17:46	Celestianpower	That's everything I've got
6-4-2006 17:46	Celestianpower	Oh no, wait
6-4-2006 17:46	Celestianpower	Newsletter
6-4-2006 17:46	Celestianpower	!AC Which programs should we "feature"?
6-4-2006 17:47	Celestianpower	!AC Wake up!
6-4-2006 17:47	KnowledgeOfSelf	The new one
6-4-2006 17:48	Celestianpower	We have a new program?
6-4-2006 17:48	KnowledgeOfSelf	The Barnstar Brigade
6-4-2006 17:48	Celestianpower	Ah yes
6-4-2006 17:48	JoanneB	you accepted it yourself CP  ;)
6-4-2006 17:48	Celestianpower	Has a page been started yet?
6-4-2006 17:48	KnowledgeOfSelf	Yes
6-4-2006 17:49	Celestianpower	Ooh - where?
6-4-2006 17:49	KnowledgeOfSelf	Wikipedia:Esperanza/Barnstar Brigade
6-4-2006 17:49	KnowledgeOfSelf	It is not linked to the current programs page yet
6-4-2006 17:50	Celestianpower	Wow
6-4-2006 17:50	Celestianpower	That looks cool
6-4-2006 17:50	Celestianpower	Okay, that's one featured program
6-4-2006 17:50	Celestianpower	Another, secondary feature?
6-4-2006 17:50	KnowledgeOfSelf	Stress alerts would get my vote
6-4-2006 17:51	JoanneB	mine too
6-4-2006 17:51	FireFox	yep
6-4-2006 17:51	KnowledgeOfSelf	I think Stress alerts should always be featured
6-4-2006 17:51	Celestianpower	Would that not get a bit dull?
6-4-2006 17:51	Celestianpower	People would stop reading that bit
6-4-2006 17:52	KnowledgeOfSelf	Well, maybe
6-4-2006 17:52	JoanneB	for now, it'd be fine as a secondary program though
6-4-2006 17:52	Celestianpower	Okay
6-4-2006 17:52	KnowledgeOfSelf	But the Stress alerts gets a lot of people added to it, so the more often it's checked the better
6-4-2006 17:53	JoanneB	btw, did anyone else get any complaints about the size? comments that we should leave a link instead of the whole thing?
6-4-2006 17:53	KnowledgeOfSelf	JoanneB: No
6-4-2006 17:53	FireFox	No, all I got was "like the new style" messages
6-4-2006 17:53	Celestianpower	Yeah
6-4-2006 17:53	JoanneB	ok - then it was just two out of 300 - not a reason to change it, I think
6-4-2006 17:53	Celestianpower	There was one user who thought it was too big but other than that
6-4-2006 17:53	Celestianpower	Yeah
6-4-2006 17:54	Celestianpower	!AC Is our current accept/reject system working?
6-4-2006 17:54	KnowledgeOfSelf	It works, but it is too slow
6-4-2006 17:55	JoanneB	agrees
6-4-2006 17:55	FireFox	agreed
6-4-2006 17:55	Celestianpower	I just had a look recently (hence the acceptance of Barnstar Brigade) but none of the others looked like they'd had enough discussion
6-4-2006 17:55	Celestianpower	Is that just advertising probvlems or that they're not popular
6-4-2006 17:55	Celestianpower	?
6-4-2006 17:56	Celestianpower	You can't tell
6-4-2006 17:56	KnowledgeOfSelf	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Esperanza/Proposals#Kindness_campaign.2FEsperanza Since I'm the only one that has made an edit to that section, you my all delete it, unless one of you or anyone would like to run with it
6-4-2006 17:56	FireFox	Perhaps in the newsletter we could "advertise" the proposals more, welcoming any suggestions
6-4-2006 17:56	Celestianpower	Yes
6-4-2006 17:56	KnowledgeOfSelf	I think some of the ideas might not be very popular
6-4-2006 17:57	Celestianpower	Yeah
6-4-2006 17:57	Celestianpower	Should we implement a system of removing ideas?
6-4-2006 17:57	JoanneB	well, they can't stay on forever of course, but it's hard to say when to remove them
6-4-2006 17:58	JoanneB	if there's no consensus after an x amount of time?
6-4-2006 17:58	Celestianpower	We could do that
6-4-2006 17:58	KnowledgeOfSelf	If after X time, no one makes an attempt to discuss a new idea, it will be archived
6-4-2006 17:58	Celestianpower	Or, X people don't like it?
6-4-2006 17:59	JoanneB	hm that would be harder, I think
6-4-2006 17:59	Celestianpower	Hmmm
6-4-2006 17:59	Celestianpower	It's a difficult one
6-4-2006 17:59	KnowledgeOfSelf	Discussion could restart if someone expresses an interest in it
6-4-2006 17:59	Celestianpower	Remember you three - you can accept or reject proposals too
6-4-2006 17:59	JoanneB	a) people will tend to be nice about other's ideas, and not say it that clearly that they don't like it  :-) and b) you could have a group of, say, 3 people shoot down every idea at once
6-4-2006 18:00	JoanneB	so having x amount of people as a criterion to remove it could pose some problems
6-4-2006 18:00	Celestianpower	JoanneB: First one is a real possibility, 2 is, but with Esperanzians? That would go against our ethos
6-4-2006 18:00	Celestianpower	!AC I think this is a sub-issue
6-4-2006 18:01	Celestianpower	We should just be bold
6-4-2006 18:02	JoanneB	ok
6-4-2006 18:02	Celestianpower	If we think it's an unpopular idea, archive it
6-4-2006 18:02	Celestianpower	If it seems to bew supported, accept it
6-4-2006 18:02	Celestianpower	Do you agree?
6-4-2006 18:02	FireFox	sí
6-4-2006 18:02	KnowledgeOfSelf	If after 3 weeks time, no one makes an attempt to discuss a new idea, it will be archived, discussion could restart if someone expresses an interest in it
6-4-2006 18:02	JoanneB	aye
6-4-2006 18:03	Celestianpower	Okay
6-4-2006 18:03	Celestianpower	!AC Any other issues need discussing?
6-4-2006 18:03	FireFox	I was wondering
6-4-2006 18:03	FireFox	If it was ok if I could use AWB again this week?
6-4-2006 18:03	JoanneB	FireFox: for the newsletter?
6-4-2006 18:04	FireFox	Yes
6-4-2006 18:04	JoanneB	Misza has created a bot for it
6-4-2006 18:04	Celestianpower	Yeah
6-4-2006 18:04	Celestianpower	In thew past half hour
6-4-2006 18:04	FireFox	I did ask Celestianpower earlier if we had a bot
6-4-2006 18:04	FireFox	:)
6-4-2006 18:04	Celestianpower	Yeah, we didn't but now we do
6-4-2006 18:04	FireFox	But that's good
6-4-2006 18:04	Celestianpower	Right
6-4-2006 18:04	Celestianpower	!AC Any other issues?
6-4-2006 18:04	KnowledgeOfSelf	None here
6-4-2006 18:05	JoanneB	No
6-4-2006 18:05	FireFox	Make sure the newsletter doesn't have any dud links or broken redirects this week?:P
6-4-2006 18:05	JoanneB	lol
6-4-2006 18:05	Celestianpower	FireFox: Okay lol
6-4-2006 18:05	Celestianpower	So, that's meeting closed I guess
6-4-2006 18:06	KnowledgeOfSelf	I do not want the newsletter this week, if possible
6-4-2006 18:06	Celestianpower	I'll sum up
6-4-2006 18:08	Celestianpower	1). Elections - Approval voting, previous councillors/Admin Gens can run, to be started tonight
6-4-2006 18:08	Celestianpower	2). User:celestianpower/Sandbox to be moved and discussed
6-4-2006 18:08	Celestianpower	3). Barnstar Brigade and Stress alerts to be "featured" in the Newsletter; Proposals to be advertised
6-4-2006 18:08	Celestianpower	4). Current system of accepting proposals deemed fine
6-4-2006 18:08	Celestianpower	Did I miss anything?
6-4-2006 18:09	KnowledgeOfSelf	We overruled you for the first time  :P
6-4-2006 18:09	JoanneB	No, but point 2 could be a bit clearer for outsiders  :-)
6-4-2006 18:09	Celestianpower	Yes
6-4-2006 18:09	Celestianpower	It will be
6-4-2006 18:09	JoanneB	ok
6-4-2006 18:09	Celestianpower	Good
6-4-2006 18:09	Celestianpower	Meeting closed

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