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[edit] 2006 Florida State Seminoles football team
Thanks. Your help re:2006 Florida State Seminoles football team is greatly appreciated. You brought up valid points regarding the Wide Right article, and the current edit looks good. In order to convey the thrust of the controversy, I just added that Miami was ranked higher in both human polls (like the USC controversy in '03), so now it reads:
Controversy erupted later in the season when the Seminoles were ranked higher by the BCS and picked to play in the Orange Bowl against the University of Oklahoma for the national championship despite Miami being ranked higher in both human polls.
I think that does the job. Thanks again for your help with the 06 Seminoles.-PassionoftheDamon 19:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] FSU Article
1. I've changed it back to 'Florida State Seminoles' per WikiProject CFB conventions. 'University of' and/or 'X University' is dropped for the purposes of these articles (i.e. Notre Dame is 2006 Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team, Oklahoma is 2006 Oklahoma Sooners football team, USC is 2006 USC Trojans football team, etc.). In this case, it is not only not in conformity to use the 'University' within the name of the article's subjecct, it is also redundant since it says: "The 2006 Florida State Seminoles will represent Florida State University during the 2006 college football season."
2. Contrary to your belief, vertical pass (also sometimes referred to as the vertical stretch or four vertical) is an offensive scheme, and I've provided a link to that effect on the article's talk page. [1] [2] [3] [4]
This is the offense FSU has employed under Jeff Bowden, utilizing shotgun and three and four wide sets with an emphasis on the deep passing game to perimeter receivers. This is why Greg Carr averages 20+ ypc. The Sporting News and MSNBC links are actually one-in-the-same, as MSNBC contracts w/ Sporting News to provide it with its scouting reports.
The problem here stems from the Sporting News using the wrong terminology in its scouting reports. It describes FSU's offensive scheme as "Pro Set" when in reality the Pro Set is a formation [5], not a scheme (2 WR, 1 TE, HB and FB line up next to each other behind the line). I think you are confusing this with a Pro Style offense. The vertical pass is a variant of a pro style offense, so while it would be accurate to say that FSU runs a pro style offense, it would not be to say that they run out of the pro set, as they seldom utilize that formation (few teams do anymore). FSU's base offensive formation is single back, three wide, one tight end.
If you want to change it from vertical pass to pro style, that's fine since the vertical pass is a type of pro style offense. But to label it a pro set offense is a misuse of terminology. Hope that helps!-PassionoftheDamon 02:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- The first time you changed the link it actually said "Florida State University Seminoles" in the article. That's why I objected. It's fine now. On another note, do you by any chance have an image for the FSU helmet? I'd love to get an image of the helmet into the article, but I've been unable to find one online. I've only found pictures of actual helmets, which I think would look silly.-PassionoftheDamon 23:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I said "pro style" was okay, not pro set. I've changed it to pro style. Again, the pro set is a FORMATION, not an offensive scheme.-PassionoftheDamon 04:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 2006 Florida State Seminoles football team and Pro Set
Hi AriGold, this is in response to the message you left on my talk page. I performed my own cursory research on the web and found references to "Pro Set" as a formation and also "Pro Set" as a scheme. I think you should update the article Pro Set to address this apparent dual meaning and cite some appropriate references. I would also recommend linking "Pro Set" in the info box of the 2006 Florida State Seminoles football team article to the Pro Set article. If the other editor is not able to provide verifiable sources for his information, it does not belong in Wikipedia. I will ask him if he is able to provide sources. I hope this helps. Regards, Accurizer 22:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, the NCAA rules say that those games count, however there sould be a note in the page. If Mr. Paterno has the information on his page, i'm sure any good Mr. Bowden fan wouldn't mind the information as well. Furthermore, the changes aren't vandalism, they are just an effort of trying to inform the public about all information regarding Mr. Bowden. If you are so afraid of this, I think you may need to take a look at your priorities.
[edit] Phi Delta Theta chapters
I don't agree with the constant inclusion of individual chapter histories either. I am strongly against any chapter of any fraternity having an article because Wiki is not some kind of web space provider. Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything I can do about it. I've been successful before in having chapter articles deleted but unsuccessful in other occasions. In these other occasions, the chapter in question was a "local" chapter. National fraternties with chapters always get deleted but local chapters always stick around like Alpha Chi Alpha and the The William Penn Society. Looking at this Tryon Coterie, the article falls in the gray area. If it were up to me I'd have it deleted but if it were nominated for deletion, it would more than likely be kept because it has local history before it even became a Phi Delt chapter. I just hope people don't get the idea that it'll be okay to have individual chapters up. This is just a rare case. --† Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind 16:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
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